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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:41 pm

Thank's for sharing that saying, and I do agree - it's very true ;) It's reminding me some conclusion - it's always better to try even if you fail, than do nothing ;)
That's great you drawing an owl !
Can't wait to see beginning then ;)
..,(I haven't check for new posts, so forgive me if you've already shared it).
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:59 am

Hi I need your advice my friends regarding this portrait composition.
It's about the TOP EDGE.
It's cut off horizontally...
Regarding the portraiture, should I use my imagination and try to draw the top, missing hair somehow, or it's ok to draw it as it is please?
I were going to leave it as it is, to be honest, but the concern is coming back whether it's acceptable or not?
Thank you...
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby Laurene » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:31 pm

I'm a big believer in following your instincts. There's something in this composition that appealed to you originally and I'm sure it's still there.

I don't think there's anything wrong with either solution. Completing the head would create a more traditional portrait, but cropping in the way it is now forces the focus on the eyes, so this is what you have to decide. If you like zeroing in on the eyes the way it is now then I would go with it. I personally like the intimate feel of close crops like this. I feel like I'm looking directly into her eyes.

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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:02 pm

I'm very appreciate your thoughts Laurene.
I wasn't sure whether this 'cropping' is acceptable regarding portraiture rules or not too much...
Thanks to you I'm more convinced, that it's up to me now whatever I decide.
As you already know, I like to keep this drawing this way.
Making up some of the top hair style is not what I were dreaming off ;)
I were worry that making up some top hair would distract the viewer and would lessen the focus on the eyes, as you've mentioned...
Thank you for your time.
Probably I'll upload present progress later this evening...
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:08 pm

Hi my friends.
Thank you for watching all my effort, that I'm putting into this drawing.
I'm spending every day as much time as I can, to work on this portrait.
I've managed to get down with the hair on the left side, as I needed to, to introduce the bottom of the hair to the cheek.
As soon as I did it, I could do some shading on the cheek and compliment the edges of hair.
I did some basic shading on the lips, to mark them and to add some more value on them, and I'm carry on shading left side of the face mowing slowly on forehead.
I were going to draw eyelashes on the left eye, but for some reason I got too busy with the fading away hair (far left side), trying to establish their shape at the bottom.
So then I've moved below the hair, to do some work on the dress...
I'm 'closing' slowly the left side from every direction and getting ready to move on the right side of the drawing...
With this update I can see more sense into this drawing, it's slowly getting the right shape and tonal value.
I hope you going to like this update, and I'm kindly opened for any critiques, that can help me to correct the faults you can pick up on it...
The sooner the better ;)
Later on will be too late to fix some mistakes ;)
Thank you all very much, for following this drawing process.
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:47 pm

Hi my friends ;)
Christmas Christmas ... and it's after Christmas now, and a New Year event already ;)
I don't know about you, but I were too busy with family meetings and all such sort of things, so I weren't much drawing...
Not as much as I wanted to ;)
Therefore I'm posting some progress on my drawing, for whom might be still interested how I'm doing ;)

Believe me or not, but I've started learning pastel pencils this Christmas time !?
I were not sure if the coloured drawings is something I should try..?
It's because I used to love drawing B&W only.
Saying that, I were always happy watching other artists coloured work, like Bev's for example ;) FORGIVE me for not mentioning all of you ;)
Actually I were talking to Bev last year, asking questions how to start, what pencils etc ...
Then at the Christmas time I was impressed with our member artist Jason Morgan's animal drawings, and I decided to check his YouTube tutorials regarding pastel pencils drawing...
This is in short, how I started ;)

So I'm working on two drawings now, one of my wife and the freshly new pastel pencil drawing...

I try drawing with pastels,bearing in mind what I know regarding graphite pencils.
It's not easy to make this jump from B&W to pastels, without understanding well, all the differences between those two media.
I think this is the right time for me to find out, whether pastels are for me or not at all ;)
I'll post my pastels drawing as soon as I'm ready ;)

Thank you and HAPPY NEW 2017 YEAR for all my friends ;)
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:03 pm

Hi ...
My wife asked me question, if I could make the missing hair up on the top?
Well, I already have started the bottom to shape the rose and the hand...
But this is wife's request, isn't it ? ;)
I just couldn't say no, could I ? ;)
So here we are, working on the hair once again ;)
Thank you.
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Hi everybody ...
It's quick update as I think I've made up the final shape of Magdalena's hair style in full ...
There is more to do yet, I mean working on details of the hair, but I think I'm happy with what I've made up straight from my mind - the missing top ;)
I hope my wife will approve it too hahaah ;) ;)

Thank you for watching...
(forgive me quality of photos...it's mobile phone camera)
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:48 pm

Hi my dear friends ;)
I'm posting the last update of Magdalena's portrait.
I've finished it late night yesterday, that's why I'm sharing it with you with some delay ;)
As usually my weakest point is the hair...
Even I'm trying my best, and I think it's all good, then at the finish I'm upset...
Maybe I should have spent even more time to make the hair looks better?
Any critiques very WELCOME.
Without criticism I won't learn on my faults ever ;)
Thank you all for being with me, and your keen support all over the time ;)

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Staedtler graphite pencils with addition of General's Kimberly 9xxB and Primo Elite Grande 5000 pencil.
Conqueror Diamond White paper.
Size - A3.
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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby Laurene » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:16 am

Congratulations Arthur! I think that finishing the top of the head was a good decision. I've often seen portraits or photos of animals and people with the top of the head cut off and it can work very well in my opinion by focusing the viewer on the eyes. I like that style too, but in this case I agree with your decision. This is more of a formal portrait, something that will be cherished for many years.

Magdalena's hair is so pretty and your drawing brings out her soft curls beautifully. I think that it works very well as is. If you really wanted to show more detail it's just a question of doing more of the same, in my opinion. In other words you could, if you wanted to, break down each section of hair and show more detail within, but it works well just the way you have it. You have enough stray hairs to break up the outline and give a sense of softness. The way that you let the back of the head on the left side softly fade out also adds to the softness.

I hope this is already framed and hanging in a place of honour at home!!

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Re: Magdalena - wife portrait

Postby PogArt » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:08 pm

I'm appreciate your very keen comment and so many good words regarding my wife's portrait Laurene ;)
Actually I went upset regarding the left side fadded away.
I've chosen it to be this way, at the beginning you see...
But when I've finished and called it done, I've started having doubts, whether it was good or bad decision...
For some reason I started thinking, that someone might take it as a bad concept, and kind of unfinished stuff...
The left side I wanted to be out of focus, vanishing somehow... There's lack of details, just kind of imagination of the rest hair style... I started thinking, that it should have been done more carefully, with more 'body' and value on it...
It was up to me then, to leave it or to adjust it...
I've chosen - leave it as it is...
That was the first choice.
If I touch it again, I might risk ruin something ...

This is why I'm so grateful for your acceptance of my drawing... It tells me that I might be wrong, and the viewer can appreciate my choice the drawing appears...
Thank you very much Laurene ;)
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